Scott McCown commented on the previous blog about the warrior connection of those
related to Francis McCown. As it happens, Scott is very active in the Church of Christ as was I until I moved out here in the wilderness and now attend a community church. We are not related to each other in the flesh but certainly are in the Spirit.
My grandmother made sure that her kids and their kids were members of the Church of Christ as well, to the best of her ability. I sing the song of prayer preparation each Sunday morning and frequently use Great Songs of the Church as a source of the hymns that I sing. I also use songs from that book but sometimes need them in a lower key signature and so then select that lower key from a Methodist, Presbyterian or Seventh Day Adventist Hymnal.
I didn't mean to get sidetracked from the Scots or Irish Theme but I am tickled pink
to have Scott following the blog. I know for a fact that some of the followers of this blog are Christians as well and they can probably relate to my celebrating in this fashion.
We are still waiting for the deep subclade test results for my closest match within
the McGuire surname and hope it may yield a source of the McGuire/McCown/McKown connecton. That would be shown if this match tests positive on SNP P66. So far, only Jim McKown and I have tested positive on P66 of those with Maguire DNA.
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
Wednesday, September 14, 2011
McCown Surname Group
FTDNA's McCown Surname Group has more than thirty members. The Ulster Heritage Group has divided most of those members into Mac Eoghain, Mac EoghainI and Mac Eoghain II.
Leonard McCown is administrator and Chris McCown is co-administrator of the surname group. Still, not all McCown/McKown named people are in any of those groups. In
addition, at least one of the McCowns and a McKown all of the Ewings (in Mac Eoghain I) appear to be in the haplogroup commonly referred to as Northwest Irish or Niall of the Nine Hostages and therefor related to the O'Connors and the O'Neills. A couple of others of the surname are simply categorized by haplogroup and three of us are
in the Mag Uidhir II (Maguire II) Group on the Ulser Heritage Group website.
Most of those in the Mac Eoghain group are descended from Alexander McCown and his six sons who immigrated to Pensylvania from Antrim about 1715. The larger group is descended from Francis and John McCown, who by DNA are closely related to the six sons group.
Some of these lived some time in County Tyrone before moving to America and it isn't clear, but is believed that they were originally of Scottish descent.
Leonard McCown has been told by Barry McCain, administrator of the Ulster Heritage
Group that he is descended, through Francis, from an Argyll Galloglais family.
These Galloglais were specially trained and armed warriors who hired out to various
chiefs in both Scotland and Ireland and many of those who served in Ireland remained there as early as 1450.
All of this is to make it clear that McCown is both Scots and Irish.
Leonard McCown is administrator and Chris McCown is co-administrator of the surname group. Still, not all McCown/McKown named people are in any of those groups. In
addition, at least one of the McCowns and a McKown all of the Ewings (in Mac Eoghain I) appear to be in the haplogroup commonly referred to as Northwest Irish or Niall of the Nine Hostages and therefor related to the O'Connors and the O'Neills. A couple of others of the surname are simply categorized by haplogroup and three of us are
in the Mag Uidhir II (Maguire II) Group on the Ulser Heritage Group website.
Most of those in the Mac Eoghain group are descended from Alexander McCown and his six sons who immigrated to Pensylvania from Antrim about 1715. The larger group is descended from Francis and John McCown, who by DNA are closely related to the six sons group.
Some of these lived some time in County Tyrone before moving to America and it isn't clear, but is believed that they were originally of Scottish descent.
Leonard McCown has been told by Barry McCain, administrator of the Ulster Heritage
Group that he is descended, through Francis, from an Argyll Galloglais family.
These Galloglais were specially trained and armed warriors who hired out to various
chiefs in both Scotland and Ireland and many of those who served in Ireland remained there as early as 1450.
All of this is to make it clear that McCown is both Scots and Irish.
Sunday, September 4, 2011
Et tu, King Tut?
I have enclosed the link as a follow-up to McCown, Maguire and King Tut. I still
recommend using a search engine and the search term Half of European men share King
Tut's DNA because there are several other sites offering different points of view.
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-08-king-tut-european-men-dna.html
recommend using a search engine and the search term Half of European men share King
Tut's DNA because there are several other sites offering different points of view.
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-08-king-tut-european-men-dna.html
McCown, Maguire and King Tut
Hey! The newspapers exagerate to get readership all the time. Actually, according to an article by Alice Baghdjian/ Reuters-Mon, Aug 1, 2011, half the men in Europe
and 70% of those in the British Isles have the same R1b1a2 haplogroup as does King Tut. If you can't wait, then use your favorite search engine and use the search
term Half of European men share King Tut's DNA.
A very high percentage of men in northern Ireland, not just that part in the UK called Northern Ireland have that DNA. This also true of western Scotland, Argyll and the islands off the west coast of Scotland, and the Isle of Man.
I needed to update the blog before it expired, besides, it gives us something to talk about.
and 70% of those in the British Isles have the same R1b1a2 haplogroup as does King Tut. If you can't wait, then use your favorite search engine and use the search
term Half of European men share King Tut's DNA.
A very high percentage of men in northern Ireland, not just that part in the UK called Northern Ireland have that DNA. This also true of western Scotland, Argyll and the islands off the west coast of Scotland, and the Isle of Man.
I needed to update the blog before it expired, besides, it gives us something to talk about.
Wednesday, August 10, 2011
Flash in the Pan or Much Ado about Nothing
It seems my previous post was wildly optimistic. The lady mentioned and I are not
related in the McManus line even a little bit, and no relationship with her McCown
line can be proven because of a lack of any surviving males to take a DNA test in her
line.
related in the McManus line even a little bit, and no relationship with her McCown
line can be proven because of a lack of any surviving males to take a DNA test in her
line.
Saturday, August 6, 2011
McManus/McCown Connection in South Carolina, 1775
This just in from our news room. An email has been received from a lady descended
from both McManus and McCown. She even had my FTDNA Kit no.. This could be a very
productive lead for her lines as well as mine, especially, mine since we have no known history before 1792 in South Carolina or anywhere else except for the vital
Y-DNA results.
Since McManus is one of the principle families in the Maguire clan this may give us a clue just where McKown/McCown fits in with the overall Maguire clan scheme of things.
It has the potential of being a genealogical break through for both of us.
I am waiting for more information from her such as if she has suitable Y-DNA male
test candidates for both McManus and McCown. She has already mentioned two specific counties in South Carolina in 1775 and my hope is that that will give a toe hold to my
brother Dick to exploit and share our research with hers.
This is the first potential breakthrough we have had to the parents and grandparents
of our great great grandfather, Lawrence McCown and better yet, it should be
supported by both conventional research and DNA. I hope to have more in the next
posting.
from both McManus and McCown. She even had my FTDNA Kit no.. This could be a very
productive lead for her lines as well as mine, especially, mine since we have no known history before 1792 in South Carolina or anywhere else except for the vital
Y-DNA results.
Since McManus is one of the principle families in the Maguire clan this may give us a clue just where McKown/McCown fits in with the overall Maguire clan scheme of things.
It has the potential of being a genealogical break through for both of us.
I am waiting for more information from her such as if she has suitable Y-DNA male
test candidates for both McManus and McCown. She has already mentioned two specific counties in South Carolina in 1775 and my hope is that that will give a toe hold to my
brother Dick to exploit and share our research with hers.
This is the first potential breakthrough we have had to the parents and grandparents
of our great great grandfather, Lawrence McCown and better yet, it should be
supported by both conventional research and DNA. I hope to have more in the next
posting.
Sunday, June 26, 2011
New Leads and More Results
On the subject of results, I need to correct my 67 marker result with Jim McKown
from 101/111 to 105/111 and add Joseph D. McGuire at 101/111 markers. Also, I
am confirmed as L513 positive in keeping with the rest of the Maguire group who have been tested.
The fair Coane and her husband have turned up some interesting leads. The word
Edeganny comes up in two Maguires and one McOwen. The fair Coane's husband has found that the root word in Gaelic from which it derives is Deacon. I am not familiar with church practice in the 1600's but in these cases, it is not always placed at the front of the name.
For example we have a Maguire with Edganny at the beginning of the name and his son, Rory McEdeganny Maguire and Owen McOwen Edeganny.
All three of these appear on the same page in the records of Fermanagh and Tyrone.
Meanwhile, Patrick MacAuley, has found that a similar sounding root (at least to a
non-Gaelic speaker) sounds much like the root which is rendered as Deacon, but in this case, comes from an accolade to Hugh Maguire, a Maguire chief and refers to his
generosity as in Hugh the Generous.
Now the chore is to somehow connect McCown/McOwen to Maguire to either of those leads.
from 101/111 to 105/111 and add Joseph D. McGuire at 101/111 markers. Also, I
am confirmed as L513 positive in keeping with the rest of the Maguire group who have been tested.
The fair Coane and her husband have turned up some interesting leads. The word
Edeganny comes up in two Maguires and one McOwen. The fair Coane's husband has found that the root word in Gaelic from which it derives is Deacon. I am not familiar with church practice in the 1600's but in these cases, it is not always placed at the front of the name.
For example we have a Maguire with Edganny at the beginning of the name and his son, Rory McEdeganny Maguire and Owen McOwen Edeganny.
All three of these appear on the same page in the records of Fermanagh and Tyrone.
Meanwhile, Patrick MacAuley, has found that a similar sounding root (at least to a
non-Gaelic speaker) sounds much like the root which is rendered as Deacon, but in this case, comes from an accolade to Hugh Maguire, a Maguire chief and refers to his
generosity as in Hugh the Generous.
Now the chore is to somehow connect McCown/McOwen to Maguire to either of those leads.
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