Word has been received from John McKown that he has ordered a kit from FTDNA and will test for 67
markers. I am looking forward to his test results and what, if any, implications it will have on the Roulston
Maguire/MacAuley/McCown study. John said that a taxi driver in Belfast told him that if he were a Protestant, he would pronounce McKown as McEwen and if he were Catholic, he would pronounce it as
McCone. My line of McCowns pronounces it to rhyme with town. That might make travel in Ulster safer since our pronunciation is neither Catholic or Protestant.
Barry McCain of the Ulster Heritage Group tells me that although all seven McKowns in the 1901 census of Parish Aghalurcher, County Fermanagh were Catholic that many families, including his, which include both Highland Scots and Ulster Irish, have a history of being Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist and Anglican depending on where individual family members lived.
Meanwhile, I have asked for more answers from FTDNA regarding my matches with Donald James Maguire. In the previous posting, I was hopeful that we would be a match. So far, FTDNA reports that
with a genetic distance of 6 at 37 markers and 8 at 67 markers we fall outside of their criteria to be considered matches. Still, he does match well with other Maguires of whatever spelling and where there is life there is hope.
Friday, February 26, 2010
Saturday, February 20, 2010
More McGuire Candidates for the Roulston Study?
In the last week, Harlyn McGuire has shown up as a 62/67 marker match and Donald Maguire should be close to being a match because Harlyn and Donald are close matches with Joseph D. McGuire and with Brad McGuire who are in the study. Hopefully Donald will be a match or close to it with me as well.
All of the men in the study group match me at 62/67 markers and since Brad and I match at 62/67, hopefully,
Donald will match me as well. I have written to FTDNA to see what they can, or will, tell me about Donald's results. Brad tells me not to worry about it, so putting it in the blog is my form of worry beads.
All of the men in the study group match me at 62/67 markers and since Brad and I match at 62/67, hopefully,
Donald will match me as well. I have written to FTDNA to see what they can, or will, tell me about Donald's results. Brad tells me not to worry about it, so putting it in the blog is my form of worry beads.
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
More Names Like McCown in Fermanagh
On a website called Fermanagh-Gold, There were a number of listings for McKeown, McKeon and two for McKeone. Yesterday, I found seven McKown households in Agulurcher Parish, Fermanagh. They were in a 1901 census and now I wouder where they lived before 1901.
Barry McCain believes that there is no difference in the surnames McCown/McKown except spelling because they have the same Gaelic root and mean the same thing ie son of John or Johnson. There was even a Johnston McKown. If there is any significance in this regarding my family, it will be up to William Roulston to sort it out.
Since McKown is a spelling also used by the Scottish Clan MacEwen, these McKowns could be native Irish, Scots or Scotch-Irish. Now, I will have to see if some McKowns will be willing to take the FTDNA Y-DNA test. If they do and they match me at 37 and 67 markers, they are my family.
Barry McCain believes that there is no difference in the surnames McCown/McKown except spelling because they have the same Gaelic root and mean the same thing ie son of John or Johnson. There was even a Johnston McKown. If there is any significance in this regarding my family, it will be up to William Roulston to sort it out.
Since McKown is a spelling also used by the Scottish Clan MacEwen, these McKowns could be native Irish, Scots or Scotch-Irish. Now, I will have to see if some McKowns will be willing to take the FTDNA Y-DNA test. If they do and they match me at 37 and 67 markers, they are my family.
Sunday, February 14, 2010
Just When I Had All the Answers---
It seems that the previous post had some errors and this is written to correct them. The outright errors are mine and there is a clarification from the fair Coane regarding the baronies of interest. I, in a fit of misreading maps put, baronies that are north and east of Lower Lough Erne, to the southwest of Upper Lough Erne.
The baronies are actually between Donegal and Tyrone, but mostly within Fermanagh. Looking at a map of Fermanagh, it looks as though Enniskillen is midway between the northern and southern boundaries of Fermanagh. The fair Coane states that "Cuchonnagh o Koen was in the Parish of Carn and Edmund McCone was in the Parish of Culmaine (Magheraculmoney). Both parishes are in the Barony of Lurg."
"Lurg, on the barony map, at the top right (orange), is quite extensive, and appears to contain both the parishes of Carn and Culmaine, which I think translates into the present day parish of Magheraculmoney.
If you click on the barony map (see link below) you can enlarge it. I think if you Google search for Carn and Magheraculmoney, you can probably get relevant info. http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:K9QpL2uMEB0J:www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk/maps.htm+Fermanagh+barony+map&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
The website link should work now for the maps.
The baronies are actually between Donegal and Tyrone, but mostly within Fermanagh. Looking at a map of Fermanagh, it looks as though Enniskillen is midway between the northern and southern boundaries of Fermanagh. The fair Coane states that "Cuchonnagh o Koen was in the Parish of Carn and Edmund McCone was in the Parish of Culmaine (Magheraculmoney). Both parishes are in the Barony of Lurg."
"Lurg, on the barony map, at the top right (orange), is quite extensive, and appears to contain both the parishes of Carn and Culmaine, which I think translates into the present day parish of Magheraculmoney.
If you click on the barony map (see link below) you can enlarge it. I think if you Google search for Carn and Magheraculmoney, you can probably get relevant info. http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:K9QpL2uMEB0J:www.claires-rosleaancestry.co.uk/maps.htm+Fermanagh+barony+map&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
The website link should work now for the maps.
Saturday, February 13, 2010
Variations of Eoin/Eoghain in Fermanagh
The fair Coane has found some more items of interest in regard to the above names which are pronounced as Owen. Rev. P. O. Gallachair, Hearth Money Rolls: Co. Fermanagh, pp. 208, 210 lists the following:
Hearth Money Rolls: Co. Fermanagh (1665-66)
Barony of Lurg: Letter
Cuchonnagh o Kohen (1666)
Robert Johnston
Barony of Culmaine: Cluncagh (Cullnigan)
Edmond McCone (1665)
As near as I can tell from what resources I have at hand, Lurg (Lorg) and Cul Maine may both be in the parish of Aghalurcher in County Fermanagh. A Google search for List of Baronies in Fermanagh turned up information on other counties as well. These names, with the County name first, are names that may be of further interest: Galway-Clon Macnowen (Mhac nEoghainn), Mayo-Kilmaine, Offaly-Ballycowen (Baile Mhic Chomhainn).
Whether o Kohen, Johnston or McCone are actually part of my family history or not, it shows that surnames based on (Owen) were certainly present in Fermanagh during the period of time that Barry McCain has mentioned to William Roulston as being of particular interest. That period runs from about 1585-1720 AD.
Both Barry McCain of the FTDNA Ulster Heritage Group and Joseph Donohoe of the FTDNA Breifne Clans Project accept percentages of probability of having a Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) of 55% to 85% as being adequate for this prediction. Interestingly, all of my best matches are solidly in those brackets about 16 generations (or 400 years) ago, which fits the period of interest very well.
An interesting point about Parish Aghalurcher is that it also borders Tyrone and Monaghan and the Parish of Enniskillen in Fermanagh as well. In Tyrone, some of the baronies overlap the county line with Fermanagh.
Obviously, I cannot predict how any of this information will affect the research on my McCown line or those of the other four men in the Roulston Project on Maguire/McCown.
Hearth Money Rolls: Co. Fermanagh (1665-66)
Barony of Lurg: Letter
Cuchonnagh o Kohen (1666)
Robert Johnston
Barony of Culmaine: Cluncagh (Cullnigan)
Edmond McCone (1665)
As near as I can tell from what resources I have at hand, Lurg (Lorg) and Cul Maine may both be in the parish of Aghalurcher in County Fermanagh. A Google search for List of Baronies in Fermanagh turned up information on other counties as well. These names, with the County name first, are names that may be of further interest: Galway-Clon Macnowen (Mhac nEoghainn), Mayo-Kilmaine, Offaly-Ballycowen (Baile Mhic Chomhainn).
Whether o Kohen, Johnston or McCone are actually part of my family history or not, it shows that surnames based on (Owen) were certainly present in Fermanagh during the period of time that Barry McCain has mentioned to William Roulston as being of particular interest. That period runs from about 1585-1720 AD.
Both Barry McCain of the FTDNA Ulster Heritage Group and Joseph Donohoe of the FTDNA Breifne Clans Project accept percentages of probability of having a Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) of 55% to 85% as being adequate for this prediction. Interestingly, all of my best matches are solidly in those brackets about 16 generations (or 400 years) ago, which fits the period of interest very well.
An interesting point about Parish Aghalurcher is that it also borders Tyrone and Monaghan and the Parish of Enniskillen in Fermanagh as well. In Tyrone, some of the baronies overlap the county line with Fermanagh.
Obviously, I cannot predict how any of this information will affect the research on my McCown line or those of the other four men in the Roulston Project on Maguire/McCown.
Thursday, February 11, 2010
Happy Event
Word was received from William Roulston yesterday that he and his wife are the proud parents of their first born, Harry William Martin Roulston was born on Jan. 26th. Because surgery was involved, his wife's recovery will require more time for healing and learning all about being a first time mother. Both mother and son are doing well and father is on a steep learning curve. My prayers continue to be with them.
Of course, William will be learning all about being a first time father, and will be fully occupied with his new duties for the foreseeable future. My memories of being a first, second and third time father where no surgery was involved were trying and so both my congratulations and concern go out to them during this joyful, yet trying time.
On the ancestor search project, the longest journey begins with the first step, and that first step is necessarily delayed. That is fine because that first step will require William Roulston's full attention and we will benefit from that much more than if he is greatly preoccupied with family duties.
Recently, news was received from Joseph D. McGuire and his friend, Debbie. This means that four of the five men in the Roulston, Maguire/McCown Project have responded with information that will be used in the project. Of special interest is that Debbie's maiden name was Maguire as well and her father is submitting his DNA sample to FTDNA. Debbie hopes to find a Most Recent Common Ancestor between Joseph and her father as part of the incentive for taking his the test. I am also pleased to report that Joseph D. McGuire has now joined the FTDNA Ulster Heritage Group. On that group, there are now 16 men listed under the Mag Uidhir II (Maguire II) category.
If any of the men listed in that group don't already have their preferences set on their FTDNA personal page
to compare their test results across the entire data base, it would help the Project if they made that change.
Otherwise, why pay for the test and not give yourself the advantage of finding others who may well help you find your own family history? Genealogy only works by fully cooperating with other researchers.
Of course, William will be learning all about being a first time father, and will be fully occupied with his new duties for the foreseeable future. My memories of being a first, second and third time father where no surgery was involved were trying and so both my congratulations and concern go out to them during this joyful, yet trying time.
On the ancestor search project, the longest journey begins with the first step, and that first step is necessarily delayed. That is fine because that first step will require William Roulston's full attention and we will benefit from that much more than if he is greatly preoccupied with family duties.
Recently, news was received from Joseph D. McGuire and his friend, Debbie. This means that four of the five men in the Roulston, Maguire/McCown Project have responded with information that will be used in the project. Of special interest is that Debbie's maiden name was Maguire as well and her father is submitting his DNA sample to FTDNA. Debbie hopes to find a Most Recent Common Ancestor between Joseph and her father as part of the incentive for taking his the test. I am also pleased to report that Joseph D. McGuire has now joined the FTDNA Ulster Heritage Group. On that group, there are now 16 men listed under the Mag Uidhir II (Maguire II) category.
If any of the men listed in that group don't already have their preferences set on their FTDNA personal page
to compare their test results across the entire data base, it would help the Project if they made that change.
Otherwise, why pay for the test and not give yourself the advantage of finding others who may well help you find your own family history? Genealogy only works by fully cooperating with other researchers.
Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Attention, All Five Who Follow This Blog
The good news is than there are now five declared followers of this blog and this message is addressed to those of you who do not regularly communicate with me.
Follower Bob from Carson, CA left a message for me which I was able to read by clicking on his follower icon. My problem in answering him is that I am not smart enough to follow Google's instructions in order to contact him. So for Bob and any others who want to contact me directly just send an email to William McCown bill77mccown@gmail.com. I am very pleased to hear from those reading the blog so please don't hesitate to write to me directly. That way, I can reply directly without first getting an education in Google 101.
Also, the original intent of this blog was to encourage inputs from readers who want to share their knowledge about anything that pertains to McCown, Scots or Irish or the FTDNA Y-DNA results that are sometimes alluded to in my various postings. If you have input regarding the Maguire Clan, Fermanagh, Cavan or other subjects which I have brought up, I encourage you to let me know.
Since I have to log into the blogspot.com website to post, I really don't know how you can input directly to the blog, but send me what you cannot post directly and I will include it in future postings.
Follower Bob from Carson, CA left a message for me which I was able to read by clicking on his follower icon. My problem in answering him is that I am not smart enough to follow Google's instructions in order to contact him. So for Bob and any others who want to contact me directly just send an email to William McCown bill77mccown@gmail.com. I am very pleased to hear from those reading the blog so please don't hesitate to write to me directly. That way, I can reply directly without first getting an education in Google 101.
Also, the original intent of this blog was to encourage inputs from readers who want to share their knowledge about anything that pertains to McCown, Scots or Irish or the FTDNA Y-DNA results that are sometimes alluded to in my various postings. If you have input regarding the Maguire Clan, Fermanagh, Cavan or other subjects which I have brought up, I encourage you to let me know.
Since I have to log into the blogspot.com website to post, I really don't know how you can input directly to the blog, but send me what you cannot post directly and I will include it in future postings.
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